Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-26544002-20151221115738/@comment-30207214-20180620122138


 * that is what approximation is. it doesn't mean equal. can be better or worse. it has enough similar traits to be viewed as kogetsu/scorpion version of scorpion/kogetsu attack. I totaly agree that throwing scorpion is nowhere  near as good as senku but it's scorpion's way to increase its range (to kill an opponent out of blade range; even though senku is a blade, but as I said approximation).

-> I know, I was just trying to clarify, that those aren't equal, while Kogetsu's Senku can be seen as Scorpion's Mantis, is that not the case for Kogetsu+Genyo and Mantis or Senku and throwing Scorpion. Kogetsu+Genyo let's you freely manipulate the blade of Kogetsu's blade, which is comparable to a normal, generic Scorpion, while Mantis is simply the same as Scorpion just more durable and allows by that the Scorpion user to stretch their blade more, which provides the combatant with better range, but Genyo from what we have seen until now just let's you manipulate the existing trion and doesn't add it to the Blade or grants better range and that is why Kogetsu+Genyo is an equivalent to Scorpion and that is why that approximation was off. The same goes for Senku and throwing a Scorpion, which I already elaborated on my previous post, so I guess there is no need to repeat myself anymore.


 * you don't need a shield during mantis attack - it's a blitz attack, to surprise the enemy and if you cannot perform it quickly it's loses its value. it's not something that should be repeatedly used behind the shield.

-> You don't seem to know how risky it is to go and spam Mantis. I explained this on my previous post too, the moment you use Mantis are you open for counter attacks and that is why Kageura is the only agent that can spam Mantis as he does. The moment a normal user attacks with Mantis could a Sniper, Shooter, Gunner or Senku user simply finish the Mantis user off, by simply using their ranged attack to finish him off, as the user can't have Bagworm, while using Mantis nor has the option to guard attacks from different angles. The blitzing won't work that effectively with the people seeing you on the radar and knowing the range of Mantis... Kageura's Side Effect and Squad comes here into the game though. Kageura's Side Effect prevents him from being caught off guard and that is why he can keep using Mantis without the fear of being intercepted. His Squad focuses on making up for the quirk of Mantis too, while Kitazoe focuses on spreading chaos on the battlefield with his Meteora, is Kage forcing others to 1v1 him and Ema is obviously keeping other foes with his sniping away or another of their patterns is Kita and Ema acting as decoys, while Kage goes for the combatants he wants to battle.The proof for this is the BFF: http://prntscr.com/jx55qg

That is why Yuma and Azuma are so dangerous for Kage and consider this, Kageura was always between buildings, while fighting and that was simply because of Azuma. Another reason for Azuma not really wanting to target Kageura was simply, because Kitazoe and Ema have a pretty good trigger combo to deal with Snipers, when the location of them is found out.


 * you talk about base and give kogetsu an optional trigger (senku) but but subtract one from scorpion (grasshopper). If I remeber correctly scorpion doesn't need an optional trigger for any of its techniques. So compare now scorpion against plain kogetsu. of course you can consider base as a plain trigger or as a combination of triggers to work optimally. in the latter case kogetsu needs senku and scorpion needs optional trigger for maneuverability.

-> Scorpion needs for Mantis 2 Scorpions. Hence why you can't use a Shield or another trigger with it. Let us not forget, that a single Scorpion is nothing. Jin was easily able to cut through a Scorpion with his Fujin, while it was stated, that Fujin is sharper, than a normal Kogetsu, was it stated that during close combat is there no significant difference between those 2... Meaning that if we would have 2 combatants, that use just 1 trigger as in Kogetsu and Scorpion would the Kogetsu user still have the advantage. Kogetsu was even able to break through Yuma's BT Shield and the moment the Kogetsu user does that with Scorpion's blade while crossing the blade is the fight done. We could argue about Scorpion being lighter, but Kogetsu's blade is still longer. Meaning that you can shield a wider area with a Kogetsu swing, than a Scorpion one. The Scorpion user would be limited to dodging the Kogetsu's attack, while the Kogetsu attack has access to blocking, dodging and etc.